I can see that scenario playing out. Still hard to say how well it would work out for the Siliconists & Transhumanists. We seen something like the Survivable AI System in the Terminator Series. I think that the Siliconists will only seek Dominance over the Land and its Littoral areas. Maybe going to sea might be the safest place for Non-…
I can see that scenario playing out. Still hard to say how well it would work out for the Siliconists & Transhumanists. We seen something like the Survivable AI System in the Terminator Series. I think that the Siliconists will only seek Dominance over the Land and its Littoral areas. Maybe going to sea might be the safest place for Non-Siliconist humanity. About 75% of the world is ocean--lots of places to live, hide, and thrive ;-)
You do have a plausible solution i.e. the sea. Though how many can survive such a strenuous, spartan & dangerous existence? What about food? The classical environmentalists are correct about the oceans being rapidly polluted. I cannot disbelieve my lying eyes when I see the satellite photos of perhaps millions of tons of plastic choking the oceans.
NOT, because we use plastic straws, but instead China simply dumps plastic, we sent there to be recycled, when its $$ value drops on the market. I held an investment in a very small but profitable recycling / hauling business.
We would warehouse bails of collected cardboard and highly valuable "White Ledger" (plain ordinary printer paper), until it's market value rose. Yes recyclable material trades as a commodity. Problem is China simply dumps it wrather than warehouse.
Surely, I doubt you agree we cannot pool our money and live on former cruise ships. Who would provide or even allow us to use Diesel fuel. At a bare minimum we would need fuel to run Diesel generators aboard just for climate control Least travel.
I love this discussion though, please point out any errors I may have made. I mean that! I too are looking for answers. Right now, I see only one solution. Self defense, hope for serious unfortunate and fatal accidents to strike say 20 to 25 at most of the elitists funding this horror.
I Hope 25-30 percent of the Elitists meet a bad end soon myself. With respect to life at sea, the idea is not to live on cruise ships at all. More like floating, self sustaining towns in International Waters. A fellow named Joe Quirk wrote a fascinating book called "Seasteading" . It started a whole international conversation about it with people writing papers, stories, etc. on it and how you could do it and what life might be like. Living at sea. This shoots in the head the whole idea of "carrying capacity' for the planet that the Eco-Freak Malthusians have been whining about since the 1970's.
As far as that massive Plastic Mess out there in the ocean. I recommended some smart people go out and separate the floating glass out of the plastic material for later use. After doing that, Put a Collar around the floating plastic debris, and singe/heat fuse it into solid floating masses. Use those as floating platforms to build residences, use as platforms for agriculture, or power production.
Ahhh That does sound brilliant, make a floating "island" from the very material now killing the oceans! That is smart!! Next, yes, if people can make the transition to how folks lived in the 1800's it WILL work.
No joke, I wish I could return to those times. Besides, we would still have the knowledge we learned since the 1800s. So I should just say, Live as the Amish live today! Except at sea. This island or islands would of course have much area devoted to growing food.
I don't know exactly how..YET..but I'm sure any group of people smart enough to use the very waste, killing our oceans, to build "Floating Islands" will figure out how to get hydroponic crops going.
Solar Power is a joke, because we only get 15 Watts of visible light per square foot, solar panels only convert visible light to electricity and are at best 25% efficient. BUT, it could be used to desalinate the sea water, of that, I am sure. In conjunction with rain storms at sea, fresh water may be very deer BUT doable.
Now remains the question, will the Siliconists gods allow us to live. Bear in mind, we would be but ants asking ourselves "Would Steven Hawking allow us to live peacefully in his house"
I can see that scenario playing out. Still hard to say how well it would work out for the Siliconists & Transhumanists. We seen something like the Survivable AI System in the Terminator Series. I think that the Siliconists will only seek Dominance over the Land and its Littoral areas. Maybe going to sea might be the safest place for Non-Siliconist humanity. About 75% of the world is ocean--lots of places to live, hide, and thrive ;-)
You do have a plausible solution i.e. the sea. Though how many can survive such a strenuous, spartan & dangerous existence? What about food? The classical environmentalists are correct about the oceans being rapidly polluted. I cannot disbelieve my lying eyes when I see the satellite photos of perhaps millions of tons of plastic choking the oceans.
NOT, because we use plastic straws, but instead China simply dumps plastic, we sent there to be recycled, when its $$ value drops on the market. I held an investment in a very small but profitable recycling / hauling business.
We would warehouse bails of collected cardboard and highly valuable "White Ledger" (plain ordinary printer paper), until it's market value rose. Yes recyclable material trades as a commodity. Problem is China simply dumps it wrather than warehouse.
Surely, I doubt you agree we cannot pool our money and live on former cruise ships. Who would provide or even allow us to use Diesel fuel. At a bare minimum we would need fuel to run Diesel generators aboard just for climate control Least travel.
I love this discussion though, please point out any errors I may have made. I mean that! I too are looking for answers. Right now, I see only one solution. Self defense, hope for serious unfortunate and fatal accidents to strike say 20 to 25 at most of the elitists funding this horror.
Sorry, I meant "Surely, I doubt you DISagree"
I Hope 25-30 percent of the Elitists meet a bad end soon myself. With respect to life at sea, the idea is not to live on cruise ships at all. More like floating, self sustaining towns in International Waters. A fellow named Joe Quirk wrote a fascinating book called "Seasteading" . It started a whole international conversation about it with people writing papers, stories, etc. on it and how you could do it and what life might be like. Living at sea. This shoots in the head the whole idea of "carrying capacity' for the planet that the Eco-Freak Malthusians have been whining about since the 1970's.
As far as that massive Plastic Mess out there in the ocean. I recommended some smart people go out and separate the floating glass out of the plastic material for later use. After doing that, Put a Collar around the floating plastic debris, and singe/heat fuse it into solid floating masses. Use those as floating platforms to build residences, use as platforms for agriculture, or power production.
These things are doable. Just Sayin'
Lee
Ahhh That does sound brilliant, make a floating "island" from the very material now killing the oceans! That is smart!! Next, yes, if people can make the transition to how folks lived in the 1800's it WILL work.
No joke, I wish I could return to those times. Besides, we would still have the knowledge we learned since the 1800s. So I should just say, Live as the Amish live today! Except at sea. This island or islands would of course have much area devoted to growing food.
I don't know exactly how..YET..but I'm sure any group of people smart enough to use the very waste, killing our oceans, to build "Floating Islands" will figure out how to get hydroponic crops going.
Solar Power is a joke, because we only get 15 Watts of visible light per square foot, solar panels only convert visible light to electricity and are at best 25% efficient. BUT, it could be used to desalinate the sea water, of that, I am sure. In conjunction with rain storms at sea, fresh water may be very deer BUT doable.
Now remains the question, will the Siliconists gods allow us to live. Bear in mind, we would be but ants asking ourselves "Would Steven Hawking allow us to live peacefully in his house"
Y'all almost as crazy as me!
Visions swimming through my head of living on a trailer park on the Pacific!
With palm trees & dancing girls---and Untaxed Distilled Spirits ;-)
Okay then, I take it back!
I'll take a double-wide.
Y'all almost as crazy as me!
Visions swimming through my head of living on a trailer park on the Pacific!